The 2023-24 season was not one to remember for Fode Ballo-Touré and Divock Origi, who were both out on loan in the Premier League, and now AC Milan must resolve their futures.
MilanNews recall how in the final few days of the 2023 summer transfer window, the defender and striker were loaned to the Premier League, to Fulham and Nottingham Forest respectively. However, it did not prove to be a year of relaunch.
The former Monaco full-back collected a paltry seven appearances while the ex-Liverpool forward manager 22 overall appearances between the Premier League and FA Cup, but only one goal scored and 754 minutes in total.
Origi was targeted by Los Angeles FC in the latter stages of the January transfer window, but the tight deadlines meant that the deal fell through and the Belgian was forced to remain in the Premier League as a supporting player.
The two players will return to Milan, but their future will not be there. The management have already given a mandate to their respective agents to find new solutions for their clients, with the club awaiting communications.
The objective is a permanent sale for the Senegal and Belgium internationals, even if the fee received would be low, because getting their respective wages off the books would be a big positive as well.
At the moment, terminating their contracts is seen as the last resort. It is very likely that the pair will be there fore the raduno at Milanello and then developments will be awaited.
So now they will pay agents to do the job of Furlani and Moncada? I guess next summer McKinsey will take care of the recruitment.
Your comments are getting worse by the minute brother.
Do you know why agents get commissions from transfers?
Because they do most of the work during the transfer.
You think Milan or any club is going around offering players to other clubs?
No the agents do that.
That’s why in almost all transfers the player has already agreed personal terms with the new club before the 2 clubs get in contact to finalize the transfer.
Example, Tonali to Newcastle.
What’s the point of one club negotiating with another club over a sale of a player just so tge player can then say: no, I don’t want to go there.
Yeah it’s not the first time that someone agreeing with the current direction of the club tells me that. But we are numerous fans here to think alike so you’ll have to deal with it.
Yeah agents work on transfers and contracts, of course, it’s their job. Giving a mandate to an agent is something recent in football though. It’s something very official, you delegate the power of the club to a third party. Basically you pay an agent to do the work of the club. So there’s a difference here. But I guess Moncada is too busy waiting in his hotel room in London to work on something else.
I think both of you are reading a bit too much into it as its basically just the club saying we don’t want these players and then the agents are told to find their clients a new club if they want to play any minutes next season. Nothing new under the sun there as I see it.
Maybe it’s a wrong choice of word but « mandate » is explicitly mentioned here and granting a mandate to an agent is a common practice for managements that have no connections in the business, like ours. In the end pay someone else, a contractor, to represent you. It’s also quite common in France where Moncada comes from.
Maybe its indeed a bit of a bad wording but its basically just the club saying find your clients a new club, there is also no monetary transaction between us and the agents in them doing so.
Football is not American sports where a player who is under a contract with a club can get traded in the middle of the night, mid flight, or mid game without his approval. In US sports, 2 clubs negotiate for compensation without the players’ knowledge, they agree to compensation and then they just notify the player and his agent where he has to book a flight. He gets traded from one part of the country to the other like an Amazon package with no say in the matter.
In football, you can’t move a player without his approval.
This is a standard procedure at every club.
Milan couldn’t sell Tonali if Tonali didn’t want to be sold.
Milan or any club notifies a player agent that he is not part of their project anymore, their price for him and the agents job from there is to figure out the players’ next move. He can either stay and not play (Bakayoko) or they can find a club that will satisfy all parties’ interests.
This is nothing new .
How do you envision this going in your head? Moncada and Furlani sit in front of a phone, with phone book of every club in the world phone number and they calling trying to find a club stupid enough to take the garbage Maldini signed out of their hands?
No that’s the agents job and he will get paid from the transfer from the players new club.
Ok I see you don’t know what I’m talking about but thanks for your precious insight about the market.
Players insert no trade clauses in their contract when they have a certain value on the open market at the time they sign their deals in American sports. Also there are trade deadlines, just the windows to make transactions last longer. They also have drafts, where the worst teams have the best odds of acquiring the best prospects as a reward for losing, which football doesn’t have. That changes the dynamics and the nature of player trading.
Also teams in North American sports don’t get relegated from the top leagues if they bottom out so there is less repercussions to putting a less competitive product on the sporting ground. There are also salary caps in all Major Sports leagues. Football, you have to pay to play.
Your welcome.
Sometimes I agree with what you say. But most of the time you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. How do you Americans say, stop yapping.
Thanks for your feedback. I’ve been a journalist in sports, I have a master degree in corporate communication and have been working in PR and internal communication for top Nasdaq companies so I think I might have some insight regarding Redbird’s policy. Not saying that I’m always right, I like to debate, learn things here from other people and I have no issue to admit that I’m wrong sometimes. Obviously our comments here are very subjective and are entitled to our own opinions and how we would like Milan to be ran as a football club. And I’m not American.
Regarding the current topic, it’s quite unclear in the phrasing. But what I evidenced is a common modern practice in football, that is quite unknown, and I would not be shocked that this management is going that way. More information here: pzpn.pl/public/system/files/site_content/635/5464-FIFA%20Football%20Agent%20Regulations%20FAQs_EN.pdf
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Agents find the club and agree personal terms, and then the club contacts the player’s current club to negotiate terms. This is how it always works.
Unless there is a release clause, so there would be no negotiation between the two clubs.
Milan doesn’t have the time to send out people to beg for another club to take two fringe players.
No, it’s not. These days agents have found new opportunities to make more money. PSG for example mandates agents to help them in some transfers. These agents have no relation with the player but have good connections with clubs and other agents. The club delegates them their power to represent the club and they pay them a big fee. Usually it’s not mediatised but Sochaux president famously said it explicitly a few years ago: “we are working with agents”.
Not sure it’s the case here but this is something that is becoming more common in football, especially considering the fact that many clubs presidents are just corporate executives with no business connections in football.