Even by AC Milan’s standards, it is hard to remember a start to the summer being quite as chaotic as this one.
Back in March, it looked like Milan had all of the pieces in place to be able to build from a positive platform. Massimiliano Allegri had the team in a Scudetto fight, and the talk of adding players like Mario Gila, Leon Goretzka and Dusan Vlahovic at least seemed to suggest a path forward.
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Ten weeks on, Milan’s entire world has turn upside down. Now there is virtually nothing to cling onto, and instead of any calm after the storm that has gripped the club, it seems to be one hammer blow after another.
A crushing end
The starting point for the turbulent recent period (to put it very lightly) came one week ago from the time of publishing. Milan went into the final game of the season with their fate in their own hands, but lost to an already-safe Cagliari team despite leading inside two minutes.
There was something about that night that made it feel like the culmination of weeks where everything felt on edge. The rumours of infighting, the decline in performance levels and the speculation about major upheaval regardless of the top four outcome put that game against a bad backdrop to begin with.
The fact that the team were jeered off at half-time despite being on course to get into the Champions League said it all, and the boos were justified. The performance had been abject, as the players looked out of ideas and bereft of energy.
Around an hour after that, the collapse had been completed. San Siro was stunned, but also unsurprised at the same time, because the Rossoneri only did what they suggested they were going to do for the past 10 weeks: miss out right at the end.
Black Monday
Less than 24 hours after the loss to Cagliari came a major earthquake at Casa Milan. Gerry Cardinale had watched the match from the stands at San Siro and was clearly furious with what he saw, scheduling some meetings for the next day.
What followed was something that many fans were calling for but probably didn’t think would actually happen: the owner sacked the head coach Massimiliano Allegri, the directors Igli Tare and Geoffrey Moncada, and the CEO Giorgio Furlani.
It was effectively a decapitation of the management and a bid to start completely afresh. The reasons for doing so have been debated in newspaper columns and Milanese cafes over the past few days, but it certainly signalled a desire to change direction.
As we reported four days ago, Cardinale – with the help of his right-hand men Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Massimo Calvelli – wants to create a more ‘European’ Milan. He wants an entertaining team that plays on the front foot, and a talented squad that can grow. Sounds simple enough, right?
Rejections come in
Conventionally, a club would hire a new technical director to guide the over-arching vision. They would then put a sporting director and head coach in place, trying to create a collective synergy based around a particular identity or principles.
Instead, Milan instantly made a strong push to try and hire Andoni Iraola as the replacement for Allegri. It actually turned out that discussions had taken place with the Basque coach before the season ended, just in case a managerial change was needed.
Not even 48 hours later, Iraola had turned the job down. The reasons for doing so were actually very fair and logical, but it set alarm bells ringing. Firstly, what is Milan’s place in the food chain if they cannot attract a coach from Bournemouth (who even preferred Crystal Palace, apparently)? Secondly, what exactly did Cardinale and Ibrahimovic pitch to him for such a quick rejected?
On Friday, Matteo Moretto stated that Xavi Hernandez – the former Barcelona boss – had also pulled himself out of the running for the job as he wants a national team opportunity next. Mauricio Pochettino’s name popped up, though as of now his chances seem to be declining too.
Talks with Oliver Glasner are scheduled, yet he too must be convinced. There is a real chance that the incompetence of recent weeks, months and years under RedBird Capital could see them end up with a manager that is far down their list.
Leao wants out
All of this will naturally have an impact on the key players in the squad, who at present have absolutely no idea how things will look going into next season. One of these such names is Rafael Leao, who dropped the latest bomb on Saturday night.
“I think I’ve given Milan everything I could give. It’s been a club that helped me grow a lot, that supported me in the tough moments. And I’m happy to have managed to write my name in the club’s history,” he said.
“Everyone has their dreams, their challenges, the things they desire, the goals they want to reach. And I too want to try a new challenge in a new league.” So, that’s the exit door open for Milan’s current longest-serving player.
Regardless of what one might think about Leao’s inconsistencies, his role and whether he will ever reach the ceiling he might once have looking like having, it cannot be seen as good news. One of the most recognisable faces of the modern Milan era no longer sees the club as the place for him despite his obvious attachment.
The mess that remains
Tomorrow is June 1, and Milan have a total power vacuum. Actually that’s not strictly true: Ibrahimovic is calling the shots, and he will make the big decisions soon. He has to, because he will leave in a week to commentate the World Cup and will be tied up for about a month.
As of now, Milan do not have a sporting director. This means that renewals, negotiations, contracts and squad management are essentially on hold. Leao has asked for a transfer, Luka Modric looks like leaving, and other stars like Adrien Rabiot and Mike Maignan are disillusioned.
There is talk of Ralf Rangnick coming in to project manage, but he is the Austria head coach. Thus, he won’t be able to work concretely on Milan because he will be tied up with the World Cup until the end of June.
He would have to pick a coach, for whom the vision was initially supposed to be ‘Fabregas-style’. Then, after Iraola and Xavi said no (managers who would have fit the idea), the links have turned to Arne Slot and Glasner.
We’ve reached the point where the FIGC has to formally write to the club to remind them to fill the gaps in the management (which they have to, as per regulations) by June 16 so they are allowed to register for the 2026-27 Serie A season.
In around five weeks, the Diavolo will have their raduno and a preseason training camp will begin. Obviously appointments will be made before then, but in the meantime the players will be following events intently while on their vacations, wondering exactly what sense can possibly come from this mess.
Predicted this years ago.
No.one wants to be around Redbird. What’s what you get when you don’t care about championships and only about top 4.
No one with real quality wants to come here when year after year we make changes and do not give any time to fix things because Gerry needs to make money ASAP rather than let a plan layout.
There. Is. No. Magic. Bullet.
Ibrahimovic is the master plan of the fall… Going behind the coach to poison the players mind makes them not to play for the coach anymore and that spoil every hope of fighting for the scudetto and making top 4
Fake news, Cardinale has informed us that we are winning and inter is bankrupt…. basically they were lifting a fake trophy… all of this is fake news, Gerry is nr. 1 and he is revolutionizing football🤣🤣🤣
The writing was on the wall as soon as Maldini, Massara, and Tonali were let go. There has never been a plan since. Things got progressively worse with every transfer window and the environment grew increasingly unprofessional and toxic. The last two months showed that the management and coach had failed to build foundations for a competitive team. Planning for life afterwards should have started earlier and not hinged on CL qualification on the final day. Decisions won’t be made until the World Cup ends and by then it may be too late. Respect to Leao for announcing his departure immediately. I think many players will leave, creating many holes in the squad on top of the existing ones. We will not be able to sign 10-15 players and so we have to involve Primavera and Futuro players. I would take a transition season to build a young future Milanisti core over a team of random mediocre players that finish fourth and get destroyed in Europe.
It’s bad, no doubt about it, but not so bad as you make it sound. There’s difference between wanting to leave and being able to. That remains true even for Leao. Maignan also wanted to leave last season.
We have a good enough core for transition season and to still be able to get a CL spot – that is if we choose a manager that can use the players he has, not to make them useless bunch of deadwoods. I still can’t fathom how Allegri (or let’s say the whole team) managed to get from title contenders to relegation level in a matter of weeks…
The total collapse was unexpected but the decline was inevitable. Napoli had an injury crisis and were going to catch up when players recovered and when they were eliminated from Europe. Roma needed time under a new coach, recovered Dybala, signed Malen, and predictably improved. Inter, once out of Europe, were able to get to another gear. Fourth was our realistic goal, higher if Inter and Napoli went further in Europe. Our squad was once again randomly assembled with no system of play in mind. The 3-5-2 worked for a few games but teams figured out how to neutralize it and we relied on individual brilliance to bail us out. This was mainly Modric, Rabiot, or Mike since Leao and Pulisic’s wings were clipped.
Told you all 3 years ago. Milan used to be an institution and about certain values, philosophy and identity. Values that were passed down to younger generations. We called it milanismo. Who better than anyone else to understand the importance of this shirt than those who have worn it?
Today what’s left is nothing but an empty shell being turned into one of their American generic, cheap on demand entertainment shows. Pathetic and disguisting. A rotten destructive (abomi)nation unleashing their destructive plague wherever they set their foot.
Its hilarious that some fans are so delusional and think that Milan lost who they were with these current owners.
Since the end of 2012/13 season, on the pitch, Milan have finished top 4 only 3 times. 3(Three) times in 13 seasons. Thats the reality.
Milan have won 3 trophies in 15 years. 2 of them are Italian Supercups.
Go and look at the players and coaches Milan have signed since Ancelotti left till this day. Outside of whatever magic or miracle Galliani pulled to sign a top 4 player in the world at the time Ibrahimovic for 24 mil, 12 months after Barcelona spent 65 on him, every other player and coach have been a young nobody, a reject, someone trying to resurrect their career or someone trying to retire in Italy. Even worse with the coaches. Milan has been unappealing for a long time. Rejected left and right by players and coaches. Even Ancelotti rejected to come back but went to Napoli.
The club have been irrelevant for almost 20 years. In hindsight , no team suffered more from the Calciopolli than Milan. Juventus went to Serie B, came back, built a new stadium and dominated the league like no team before. Inter was rewarded even though they were probably the most guilty party.
Milan went in a banter era and never got out. Some fans think that Milan winning the scudetto was them getting out of the banter era. Wrong. Because of covid, no fans, teams losing revenue, the teams that were above Milan dropped down to Milan’s level, not Milan elevating themselves to their levels. Look at Juventus. After dominating Serie A for 10 seasons, on the pitch and financially, they haven’t won anything since covid and are in arguably the worse spot than Milan now. Milan were losing 2 of their starters each season for nothing during this period after covid, but some here act like all of a sudden Leao not seeing himself at the club no more is troubling. What about the top 3 GK in the world, or top 3 midfielder in his role, how about the most important player for the system the team played or the captain of the team not seeing themselves in the club anymore? Was that not a single strong enough? Fans were too busy demonizing those players but glorifying others. Milan were never out of the banter era.
Does Milan needs better owners, competent managers, absolutely, but Milan lost who they were long time ago, because Berlusconi kept the club almost a decade too long and then passed it over to an individual that had less money to his name than some of the fans.
Well said. We have an inexperienced group in charge of the club. It’s going to take time for them to get the right people in place. Fans pretend hiring a scudetto winning coach and experienced SD were a bad idea! They were not.
This is why it is hard to take you seriously…
“It’s going to take time for them to get the right people in place” – last 4 years the staff hadn’t changed. Same i*iots making the same mistakes… 5th year about to kick off and we’re somehow in an even worse place than the last 4 years…
When will they learn according to you? How long of a leash are you giving them before you turn on them? The answer is probably irrelevant, because it doesn’t matter how much they trample all over this club – you’ll keep justifying everything and anyone who cardinally disagrees simply doesn’t know what they are talking about…
American Model does not work at Milan. Period.
This is not the American model. This is some whacky football owner like Jerry jones of Dallas cowboys fame who acts like a fool every year.
American corporations for the most part are more prudent and careful.
A wise ownership would never fire Maldini. Never would have had a manager merry-go-round like we have now.
Elliot was a good example.
Yep. My guess is if Gazidis was the CEO, things would be very different. Firing Maldini wasn’t the loss some people claim it was, failing to extend Gazidis was a huge mistake.
Failing to extend? He had cancer…
But let me get this straight. It is Gazidis success, the Scudetto? But not renewing Kessie, Calhanoglu and Donnarumma that asked over his wage budget isn’t his failure? 😀 You’re a genius. You’re come up with anything to sh*t on Maldini for some mentally ill reason only you know.
Pretending a scudetto winning coach and experienced, successful SD were bad hires exposes you as a toxic, prejudiced piece of garbage. The American model doesn’t work at Man? Ellliot are American. We won the scudetto under them.
Gazidis didn’t want to continue due to his health after recovering from cancer
Nicely said. True and sad at the same time. We will need a good few years before kids starting loving AC Milan again, like we (ourselfs) used to, when we were kids. Everybody knew and feared AC Milan, now people forget that we won CL not once but 7 times… And we are 2nd placed most CL winner all time, at least for now … Its hard to accept that we are in this mess, i just hope we get there where we were somewhere in my lifetime. Good luck everybody
While I agree Berlu held on way too long – esp after he lost his civil court case and had to cough up 500M – that ended all investment in Milan.
However your analysis intentionally leaves important FACTS out of the equation – how AFTER all those years of futility – we DID IN FACT come back to relevance under the guise of Maldini and Massara. Scudetto winners and semifinalists in UCL. That takes TIME to build but with M&M despite a shoestring pathetic budget, we did it.
FINALLY we were relevant again. Not a perfect team BUT a United team with the core building blocks to bring us back all the way so long as we revived some key investments to finish the squad. It WAS right there. Then Gerry came along and blew it all up. Why? EGO? Yes. But more importantly, winning titles costs BIG $$$$$ – heavy investment. That is NOT the Redbird model. Atalanta is the model. Profits over titles. So he blew it all up and ever since we have been a disaster
Glad you acknowledged we need new owners and new management – unfortunate it won’t happen any time soon (at least the owner part). What Berlu did or didn’t do (sell) is relevant. Redbird are the owners now and they were handed a semi final UCL team with a talented core that loved to play together – all Redbird had to do was leave M&M alone and increase that pathetic budget and we would have been right back to the top.
Now we are in this mess all of Redbirds doing.
Place blame where it belongs and don’t deflect to our former owner who won us 30 titles AND made Milan one of the most famous clubs in the world
Yawn. The usual revisionist history from a Maldini fan. First of all, Giroud, Ibrahimovic, Kessie and Kjaer needed to be replaced so pretending we were well set is the usual lies you post. Secondly, Maldini blew most of the budget on CDK and signed Origi to a fat contract. Then he went on TV and complained about a lack of investment, this is the guy who lost Donarumma, Cana and Kessie for nothing. Of course RedBird didn’t trust him to get the rebuilding right, why would they?
Redbirds seems to trust anyone. Now Ibrahimovic is in charge. Great advancement, the club is obviously going forward. 😂😂😂
They wrote finished but won’t even say who two of those three times it was under because of their hate for Maldini. WE WERE heading in the right direction until they got their egos bruised
Finished top 3*
You are writing about Seria A in general or the italian football in general. Everyone knows that Seria A in general has been in steady decline since it’s golden era. I am sure that no one here expects our club to dominate big money clubs in CL. We do expect however some ambitions, like seria A title, or decent respectful runs in CL. Yes we have been dragged in the mud since Berlusconi reached the top politically and personally. Eventually sold the club knowingly to that broke Asian. God knows what kind of deals went on in the background. However, even after that, Elliot ownership, redbird big money purchase, Milan brand and fan base has always been bigger than crooked Juve, and on par with inter that has had more success than us recently. And yet milan stays strong as a brand and fan base. That alone tells us that Milan is not a small club by any means. With the right ownership and management we can become competitive on all fronts. Until Seria A brings in more money, yes we will lose our stars to the big money clubs but at least we will be competitive and win domestic trophies at minimum. We were in the right path, but redbird wanted to bring MLB rulebook to football.
Agreed 100% but the ship was heading in the right direction when we won the scudetto. Young, talented and hungry players all united behind a good coach in Pioli and an outstanding director in Maldini.
All the trouble occurred after dipstick bought the club and didn’t give squat to buy more players. Then fired the man that brought the club back.
Point is these are all self indicted wounds that could have have been prevented if Gerry would let the pros run the club. Had he we surely would have won another Scudetto and gone far in the CL if not outright winning it.
I’m afraid nothing will change with RedBird at the helm of this club. Hopefully they sell to more competent folks
I hate to say it but I agree with the gist of what you’re saying but not the reasons.
You’re right the rot started 20 years ago but it had less to do with money and more to do with how the club was run including under Berlusconi and especially Galliani.
The rot started when Braida left and Galliani began to look after the transfers.
Milan went from a solid base with targeted transfers to chaos.
It’s almost impossible to pull together a list of all of the players Milan have bought (with the various loans, co-ownerships, back and forths) but I think I’ve got it down to over 200 standalone signings in 20 years:
Adel Taarabt
Adil Rami
Adrien Rabiot
Alberto Aquilani
Alberto Gilardino
Alen Halilovic
Alessandro Budel
Alessandro Florenzi
Alessio Cerci
Alessio Romagnoli
Alex
Álex Jiménez
Alexander Merkel
Alexandre Pato
Alexandro Cavagnera
Alexis Saelemaekers
Álvaro Morata
André Silva
Andrea Bertolacci
Andrea Conti
Andrea Poli
Andrej Modic
Andriy Shevchenko
Ante Rebić
Antonio Cassano
Antonio Mirante
Antonio Nocerino
Ardon Jashari
Asmir Begovic
Aster Vranckx
Bakaye Traoré
Bartosz Salamon
Bojan Krkic
Brahim Díaz
Carlos Bacca
Charles De Ketelaere
Christian Pulisic
Christian Vieri
Christopher Nkunku
Cristian Zaccardo
Cristian Zapata
Daniele Bonera
David Beckham
David Odogu
Devis Vásquez
Dídac Vilà
Diego Laxalt
Diego López
Divock Origi
Emerson
Emerson Royal
Emil Roback
Fabio Borini
Ferdinando Coppola
Fernando Torres
Fikayo Tomori
Filippo Terracciano
Flavio Roma
Fodé Ballo-Touré
Francesco Acerbi
Franck Kessié
Gabriel
Gabriel Paletta
Gerard Deulofeu
Giacomo Bonaventura
Giampaolo Pazzini
Gianluca Lapadula
Gianluca Zambrotta
Gianmarco Conti
Djamel Mesbah
Dominic Adiyiah
Felipe Mattioni
Giuseppe Favalli
Gonzalo Higuaín
Gustavo Gómez
Hakan Çalhanoğlu
Ibrahim Bá
Ismaël Bennacer
Ivan De Santis
Ivan Strinic
Jens Petter Hauge
Jérémy Ménez
Jherson Vergara
João Félix
Johann Vogel
José Mauri
José Sosa
Juan Alberto Mauri
Junior Messias
Juraj Kucka
Kaká
Keisuke Honda
Kévin Constant
Kevin-Prince Boateng
Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
Koni De Winter
Krisztián Tamás
Krzysztof Piatek
Kyle Walker
Leandro Grimi
Léo Duarte
Leonardo Bonucci
Leonel Vangioni
Lucas Biglia
Lucas Ocampos
Lucas Paquetá
Luiz Adriano
Luka Jović
Luka Modrić
Luka Romero
M’Baye Niang
Malick Thiaw
Mancini
Márcio Amoroso
Marco Amelia
Marco Pellegrino
Marco Sportiello
Marco Storari
Marco van Ginkel
Marcus Diniz
Marek Jankulovski
Mario Balotelli
Mario Pašalić
Mario Yepes
Mark van Bommel
Marko Lazetić
Massimo Oddo
Mateo Musacchio
Mathieu Flamini
Matías Fernández
Matías Silvestre
Mattia Caldara
Mattia Destro
Maxi López
Michael Agazzi
Michael Essien
Mike Maignan
Niclas Füllkrug
Nicola Legrottaglie
Nigel de Jong
Nikola Kalinić
Noah Okafor
Oguchi Onyewu
Olivier Giroud
Pablo Armero
Pepe Reina
Pervis Estupiñán
Philippe Mexès
Philippe Senderos
Pierre Kalulu
Pietro Pellegri
Pietro Terracciano
Rade Krunic
Rafael Leão
Ricardo Oliveira
Ricardo Rodríguez
Riccardo Montolivo
Riccardo Saponara
Riccardo Sottil
Robinho
Ronaldinho
Ronaldo
Ruben Loftus-Cheek
Salvatore Bocchetti
Samu Castillejo
Samuel Chukwueze
Samuele Dalla Bona
Samuele Ricci
Sandro Tonali
Santiago Gimenez
Sergiño Dest
Simon Kjaer
Simone Romagnoli
Sokratis
Stefan Simic
Stephan El Shaarawy
Strahinja Pavlović
Sulley Muntari
Suso
Tabaré Viúdez
Tammy Abraham
Taye Taiwo
Theo Hernández
Thiago Silva
Tiemoué Bakayoko
Tijjani Reijnders
Urby Emanuelson
Valter Birsa
Warren Bondo
Yacine Adli
Yoann Gourcuff
Yunus Musah
Zachary Athekame
Zeljko Kalac
Zlatan Ibrahimović
Adrià Carmona
Tiago Dias
Giuseppe Ticli
William-Fils Aubameyang
Ezekiel Henty
Favour Aniekan
Alphadjo Cissè
Andrea Bianchimano
Uros Palibrk
Sandro Bloudek
Romano Perticone
Rodrigo Ely
Andreas Jungdal
Antonio Donnarumma
Antonio Mionic
Attila Filkor
Bruno Montelongo
Catilina Aubameyang
Chaka Traorè
Cristian Brocchi
Cristian Daminuță
Digão
Dimitrios Eleftheropoulos
Edmund Hottor
Edoardo Pazzagli
Federico Furlan
Filippo Perucchini
Filippo Porcari
Harmony Ikande
Jan-Carlo Simić
Leroy Abanda
Massimo Donati
Mathías Cardacio
Matteo Chinellato
Matteo Pessina
Nicola Pozzi
Michal Miskiewicz
Mohamed Sarr
Nnamdi Oduamadi
That’s 238 players in 20 years. I’ve also counted nearly 97 ‘youth players’ (again impossible to work out) who have been around the first team.
That’s over 300 players in 20 years or an average of over 10 players arriving in the FIRST TEAM each year.
For 20 years.
The money spent is again hard to work out but it’s in the billions.
In fact you’d be hard pressed to find a more lucrative scheme for money laundering and corruption.
Agents who is never kicked a ball before walking around earning what most footballers earn in a life time probably should also raise some red flags with authorities.
And people wonder why I hate transfers.
If you accept the fact that Milan have no money and are no longer a big team on the European stage, then can it at least have a soul?
Would it be any worse watching a team of:
Plizzari (f’ck Donnarumma)
Calabria Darmian Gabbia Bartesaghi
Brescianini Cristante Locatelli
Liberali Cutrone Maldini
The worst part of the misguided belief that Milan are somehow ‘Football Giants’ (as opposed to at best ‘Sleeping Giants’) is that’s what’s driven a lot of the panic and chaos which has removed the foundations that are required to BE a giant (of any kind).
But we don’t even need to go back 20 years.
This is what the team could’ve looked like:
Maignan
Kalulu Tomori
Calabria Theo
Tonali
## Reijnders
Pulisic Leao
##
A striker and a replacement for the Kessie Scum.
2 x players.
Instead we got over 60.
Stick in Rabiot and then all you need a striker.
Any of Vlahović, Højlund, or Thuram could’ve done or Milan could’ve have destabilised Inter and signed Martínez.
Typical of the overreaction we’ve come to expect from this website.
Liverpool OBVIOULSY told Iraola to hold his horses, you do not meet twice with someone if you’re not interested in working for them. Liverpool are a much better project than Milan at the moment so it’s understandable he turned Milan down.
Xavi has been out of work for 2 years and Pochettino is a fraud. Furthermore, Milan’s most successful coaches under Berlusconi were not big name coaches at the time. Sacchi and Capello were unknowns, Ancelotti had failed at Juventus. Zaccheroni was a promising coach with no international experience.
Most fans wanted Allegri, Tare, Furlani out and I’d wanted Moncada out for years. We got out wish and you’re complaining because ready made replacements haven’t arrived? It’s World Cup year, things are complicated. There are only a handful of elite coaches available right now, things change in July. Now, if Rangnick turns down Milan, then they have other, less attractive options. If Glasner turns down Milan, they go for Italiano.
We have the second highest wage bill in the league, Allegri was one of the highest paid coaches in the world, a new stadium is being built and apparently the club is so toxic no one will work for Milan! Settle down. Whatever happens, a new coach will be in charge for next season. We get behind the team and hope for the best.
Pochettino is not a fraud my friend, how can you say that
Typical idiocy of yours we’ve come to expect from this website.
I stated facts. Of course you have a problem with facts, because it means you have no counter argument. I suggest less time rotting your limited braincells with alcohol and more time processing information.
Are Liverpool a better project than Milan? Yes.
Do we have the second highest wage bill in the league? Yes.
Was Allegri one of the best paid coaches in the world? Yes.
Is a new stadium being built? Yes.
See, you have nothing.
Milan are actually 5th on the wage list in Serie A
Noted. Thanks for the correction.
Not all is bad news people. All these incompetences likely mean that 1 more failed season together with boycott, rotten bird will sell to break even. They bit more than they could chew.
that’s the only upside in this mess. hopefully it will happen sooner rather than later
Not this idiotic argument again. Which experienced, successful owners of football clubs out there can buy Milan? That’s right, no one because there are laws against multiple ownership. If the club is sold, and it won’t be sold until a new stadium is built at the earliest, a bunch of newbs would take over and we’re back to square one so instead of hoping they fail, just because the owners are American or they fired Maldini or whatever other pathetic gripe you have, how about hoping they succeed?
U are the only one wishing them to succeed LOL
They succeed if the club WIN.
Only positive here is finally getting rid of leao. His extreme wages can finally be used on players who will actually try for the badge. Everything else is the exact train wreck we knew was coming with cardinale and Ibra
Big surprise, NOBODY wants to work for them. Who woulda thought…
they sell leao and get who exactly? 2 or 3 nobody’s 10 mil each? how many of those players worked out last 4 years? leao wages? he gets 7 mil net. he’s not getting 20. heck vlahovic is getting 12 mil net at juventus. ffs
Lauriente. He’s consistently delivered good numbers in Serie A and has one year left on his contract.
Psg winning 2 champions league not by some stars or experience player’s but a young team with right scouting.
Milan can do it, we already played semi finals with young team.
We just need good management that’s all who can work their sleeve’s off.
PSG are a f’ing disgrace.
I think we should probably take more inspiration from Arsenal than a club that is sportswashing genocide.
PSG’s owners aren’t involved in any genocide.
Arsenal have EMIRATES on their jersey.
HA HA HA Ibrahimovič ide za par dana na svjetsko prvenstvo u Ameriku kako bi komentiro utakmice i ostat če preko mjesec dana !!! Pa jessu li on i Kardinale totalno popizdili ?????????????????????????????
Don’t worry, Redbird is in charge. For a company talking about changing Italian football they sure are well organized and have clear plans what to do with Milan.
It is important for the team to build a clear identity, and specifically a winning mentality and championship culture. Perhaps it would be beneficial for former players such as Andriy Shevchenko, Clarence Seedorf, and Filippo Inzaghi to work as scouts or even academy coaches, so that academy players can improve both mentally and technically.
In addition, experienced professionals with strong management knowledge should be part of the board of directors and take control of the club’s direction, rather than Gerry Cardinale making all the decisions.
This could help AC Milan restore its identity, culture, and long-term vision at the highest level.
As for Massimiliano Allegri, I believe his football philosophy was damaging the club’s progress and mentality. In my opinion, it was better for the club that he left, because Milan should represent modern, attacking football and ambition, not a negative or outdated approach.
You can always tell when an article hits the mark by the pathetic RedBird trolls appearing in the comment section to spread fake news and propaganda. This is a fan site, shouldn’t there be some filter that would prevent these disgusting beings from poisoning the online community.
There are no ‘RedBird’ trolls. There are fans who have issues with lying pieces of garbage who push agendas. Of course you anti-knowledge toxic fans want a filter because you don’t like being exposed!
Do you mean people that blame Maldini for not renewing Calhanoglu, Kessie and Donnarumma? And say that the Scudetto was due to Gazidis? And then intentionally fail to mention the wage limits set by the same guy?
Those “lying pieces of garbage”? I agree, completely. What do you do about your issues with people like that? Cover the mirror with black tape so you don’t have to watch that person?
‘Do you mean people that blame Maldini for not renewing Calhanoglu, Kessie and Donnarumma? And say that the Scudetto was due to Gazidis? And then intentionally fail to mention the wage limits set by the same guy?’
First let’s get something straight, some of us don’t sit there whining and crying about Maldini years ago he left. If you keep bringing him up, I’ll remind you of why he was sacked. If you actually bothered to look at hie tenure, it’s perfectly understandable why.
Maldini isn’t necessarily to blame for failing to renew those players, but he is absolutely to blame for failing to sell them before their contracts expired. The low salary and wage limits were in part due to not bringing in revenue from player sales for years.
2018-2019. In €194.64 million, out €88.10 million
2019-2020. In €144.08 million, out €59.23 million
2020-2021. In €32.02 million, out €51.65 million
2021-2022. In €100.44 million, out €5.12 million
2022-2023. In €61.79 million, out €11.11 million
Transfers In: €532.97 million
Transfers Out: €215.21 million
Net Spend: €317.76 million
That is unsustainable. M&M did a horrific job of generating revenue from player sales.
The scudetto wasn’t ‘due’ to Gazidis, M&M helped build the squad, but Gazidis was the mastermind that dug the club out of the gutter.
“2018-2019. In €194.64 million, out €88.10 million
2019-2020. In €144.08 million, out €59.23 million
2020-2021. In €32.02 million, out €51.65 million”
Net spend 170M in 3 seasons. Leading up to Scudetto.
Net spend last 3 seasons 135M€ – how did we do? I’d say Gazidis, Maldini and Massara did much better than the ones after them. Spent 35M more, were in CL and won 1 title. So just the CL money makes this a more successful period even financially. Same goes even for those 2 seasons after. If you spent 50M€ more but qualified for CL you are in profit.
Great “evidence” for what you claim. Thank you! Keep up the nonsense.
And let’s not forget the wage bill is higher today, not lower. And Milan is doing worse spending MORE MONEY. Not less.
“Net spend last 3 seasons 135M€ – how did we do? I’d say Gazidis, Maldini and Massara did much better than the ones after them. Spent 35M more, were in CL and won 1 title. So just the CL money makes this a more successful period even financially. Same goes even for those 2 seasons after. If you spent 50M€ more but qualified for CL you are in profit.”
In addition to not understanding football, you also fail at Maths and basic accounting. You still haven’t learned. Instead of assuming you know how things work, or assuming something to be true, educated yourself. Maldini was a director from 2018-2023, so selectively taking out 3 years doesn’t help your argument and it doesn’t matter what YOU say. Accounts:
2018-2019: -€145.90 million
2019-2020: -€194.60 million
2020-2021: -€96.40 million
2021-2022: -€66.50 million
2022-2023: +€6.1 million
M&M did a horrific job of generating revenue from player sales. This is undisputed fact, as we see above.
In the 2022-2023 season, most of the budget went on CDK, Maldini went on American TV and complained about a lack of investment. He was apparently against the Tonali sale, which was a genius move because it allowed Milan to increase the salary limits and the player went on to be banned for a year. Management couldn’t trust Maldini to renew Leao, Mike and Theo and risk losing them for nothing, they also couldn’t trust him to spend money wisely (and there were a lot more misses than hits) and that’s why he was sacked. You fanboys let sentiment get in the way of facts.
Hahahahahahahahaghahahjahahhaha.
What happened to net transfers? When I disproved your LIE you switched to “accounts”? 😀
I’ve literally used your numbers to disprove you.
So now Gazidis did a great job but at the same time you’re showing the total finances as the blame of Maldini and Massara. 😀
In the 3 seasons where they spent 170M€ net and qualifying for the CL made more than 170€m.
And it is better than the past 3 years where the club spent 35M less over 3 seasons but finished 2nd, 5th and 8th now?
What gets in the way of facts in your case is your mental illness. You have to be mentally ill to keep up this obviously non factual “facts” story you keep making up.
Why do you insist on embarassing yourself? You don’t know that IN means players signed!
2018-2019. In €194.64 million, out €88.10 million
2019-2020. In €144.08 million, out €59.23 million
2020-2021. In €32.02 million, out €51.65 million
€370.74 million was spent on bringing IN players.
€198.98 million was taken in from players sold.
That means the club was -€171.76 on transfer spending.
I don’t know but I wrote this 5 hours ago?
Enjoy clown!
” Max
1 June 2026, 10:56 at 10:56 am
“2018-2019. In €194.64 million, out €88.10 million
2019-2020. In €144.08 million, out €59.23 million
2020-2021. In €32.02 million, out €51.65 million”
Net spend 170M in 3 seasons. Leading up to Scudetto.
Net spend last 3 seasons 135M€ – how did we do? I’d say Gazidis, Maldini and Massara did much better than the ones after them. Spent 35M more, were in CL and won 1 title. So just the CL money makes this a more successful period even financially. Same goes even for those 2 seasons after. If you spent 50M€ more but qualified for CL you are in profit.
Great “evidence” for what you claim. Thank you! Keep up the nonsense.”
Correction -€171.76 million.
Just to simplify for you, because it’s evident you’re a halfwit:
“Net spend 170M in 3 seasons. Leading up to Scudetto.” = “Net spend 170M in 3 seasons. Leading up to Scudetto.”
Understand or need better explanation, or even simpler?
Here man “Net spend 170M in 3 seasons. Leading up to Scudetto.”
Net spend means a LOSS of -€171.76 million on transfers.
“If you spent 50M€ more but qualified for CL you are in profit.”
Good grief, your Maths is even worse than your footballing knowledge. How are you getting €50 million more?!?!?
€370.74 million was spent on bringing IN players.
€198.98 million was taken in from players sold.
That means the club was -€171.76 million on transfer spending. That’s not €50 million more, it’s -€171.76 million on transfers.
As you continue to be impressively dense, here’s AI confirming what I said:
Gemeni:
It is -€171.76 million, not €50 million. The club went deep into the red on their transfer balance during those three seasons, running a total deficit of over €171 million to buy those players.
Anyone claiming it’s only “€50 million more” is completely wrong on the math. The actual difference between what they spent on arrivals and what they recouped from departures is exactly -€171.76 million.
You disproved me by showing the numbers I used 5 hours ago to show you’re a liar.
Great job, I don’t even have to try hard, you’re proving me right with your own comments.
I didn’t even have to mention the state the club was in when M&M joined, the players that were at the club at that point and so on.
Enjoy reading again!
“If you spent 50M€ more but qualified for CL you are in profit.”
It is 2+2. It isn’t my fault you again lied to make up something so you sound smart and right.
If you spend 50M€ more and qualify for CL COMPARED to a season where you spent 50M less but didn’t qualify for CL. Which season you had a better financial situation?
How did you manage to come up with such a stupid thing from what I wrote? 😂😂
Now clown, let’s make an explanation for kids, I can see you can’t even read properly. Here you go:
2018-2019. In €194.64 million, out €88.10 million
2019-2020. In €144.08 million, out €59.23 million
2020-2021. In €32.02 million, out €51.65 million”
This was copy pasted from you, hoipe you understand what it says.
“Net spend 170M in 3 seasons. Leading up to Scudetto.” Is it clear to you I did the math and gave the correct number or you want to lie more? 😂😂😂
“Net spend last 3 seasons 135M€ – how did we do? I’d say Gazidis, Maldini and Massara did much better than the ones after them.” Those 3 season up there compared to last 3.
“Spent 35M more, were in CL and won 1 title. So just the CL money makes this a more successful period even financially.” For the 3 mentioned seasons
“Same goes even for those 2 seasons after. If you spent 50M€ more but qualified for CL you are in profit.” Even in this 2 seasons when there were no player sales they spent how much more compared to this or last season? Do the math clown. In recent seasons they spent how much less per season? To get which position? Are you re*arded? Hahahahah
Claiming you’ve been proven right when in fact you have indeed been proven wrong doesn’t help your position, rather it shows you remain a complete bluffer and speak on matters far beyond your understanding. Gemeni is google’s AI, which I assume, like with most other things, you didn’t actually know. I repeat:
Gemeni:
It is -€171.76 million, not €50 million. The club went deep into the red on their transfer balance during those three seasons, running a total deficit of over €171 million to buy those players.
Anyone claiming it’s only “€50 million more” is completely wrong on the math. The actual difference between what they spent on arrivals and what they recouped from departures is exactly -€171.76 million.
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And the accounts that I listed proved my position, not yours. In the 5 years Maldini was a director,
€532.97 million was spent on signings and only €215.21 million was recouped on sales, meaning the club was negative €317.76 million in the red on transfers.
You and Gemini, hard to tell who’s a bigger genius. 😀 Good job! You can’t even spell Gemini?
Id*ot, I never said they spent 50M more. You didn’t understand. They spent 35M more compared to the past 3 years. Net spend. Your id*tic claim is that they were fired because of the net transfer spend was bad, they didn’t sell players. BUT THE FACT IS that it was 170M€ for those 3 years, last 3 seasons it was 135M€. Where is the big difference? Oh yes, Milan spent 35M more and won a Scudetto and was in CL. SO the financial situation itself was better. That is the point – spending 50M more every season and being 2nd or spending 50M less net and being 8th, what is better? Financially only. Do you understand?
Not only that, you misunderstood half of what I wrote and you’re telling me I’m stupid and I don’t get it. Go back and read what I wrote again and stop embarrassing yourself…
Do you understand what the term “spend more” means? It is a comparison by default. Doesn’t mean you made a profit. Is it my fault you don’t understand English?
Saying someone “spent 50M€ more” doesn’t mean they made 50M€? Obviously?
How can you even misunderstand something that bad and not be embarrassed and keep attacking me?
Basic English. Go and ask Gemini lol.
“Those 3 season up there compared to last 3.”
The last 3? I didn’t give the data on transfers, so you can stop pulling numbers out of thin air, as if your claims are credible, and Maldini was a director until 2023, not 2021 so you can stop trying to remove massive amounts of spending just to make your numbers look better!
2018–2021. In €370.74 million. Out €198.98 million.
Net Spend: -€171.76 million
2023-2026. In €441.68 million. Out €283.32 million.
Net Spend: -€158.36 million
That’s a difference of €13.40 million, where are you getting €35 million and €50 million from? Don’t bother trying to explain, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
“Net spend last 3 seasons 135M€ – how did we do? I’d say Gazidis, Maldini and Massara did much better than the ones after them. Spent 35M more, were in CL and won 1 title. So just the CL money makes this a more successful period even financially. Same goes even for those 2 seasons after. If you spent 50M€ more but qualified for CL you are in profit.”
It doesn’t matter what YOU think. You don’t understand profit and loss. The accounts:
2018-2019: -€145.90 million
2019-2020: -€194.60 million
2020-2021: -€96.40 million
How is that a profit?!?!? That’s €436.9 million in operating losses! The accounts were so bad, Milan were banned for Europe and had to enter in a settlement agreement.
The last 3 seasons:
2022-2023: +€6.1 million
2023-2024: +€4.1 million
2024-2025: +€2.9 million
€13.1 million in profits.
And it doesn’t matter if you remove Maldini’s final year and go from 2023-2026, the club still turned a profit, which has ONLY been the case since RedBird took over in 2022. While Maldini was a director, Milan posted €460.80 million in operating losses and you’re actually confused as to why he was fired!
I’ll come back later, I really hope you don’t get it yet as I’m having a lot of fun reading the nonsense you keep coming up with.
I went to you pal and copy pasted (had to ask him to censor all the “bad words”) the full thread and asked:
How the f*ck did you explain wrong to this guy? it is your fault i*iot, he asked you for help
I operate based strictly on the text prompts users input. In this debate, “uberhulk” provided the raw transfer figures and likely asked an isolated, leading question about whether the net result was “-€171.76 million” or “€50 million.”
Because “uberhulk” did not feed the AI the full context of the conversation—specifically that the “50M€ more” was a hypothetical comparison regarding Champions League qualification revenue—the AI processed only the literal math provided in the prompt.
Here is exactly why that output was generated:
The Calculation: The AI processed the transfers in (€370.74M) minus transfers out (€198.98M) provided by the user, correctly resulting in a net spend deficit of -€171.76M.
The Missing Context: The AI debunked the “€50 million” figure because, in a vacuum without the context of the prior comments, 50 million does not logically fit the transfer math.
An AI tool cannot read a forum debate or recognize a hypothetical analogy if the user intentionally or accidentally omits that text to get a specific answer.
And after you have the full convo?
With the full conversation visible, it is completely clear that “Max” was making the coherent argument, and “uberhulk” entirely misunderstood what was being said.
Here is the exact breakdown of where the argument derailed:
The Transfer Math: Both users actually agreed on the core numbers without realizing it. Uberhulk calculated a net transfer loss of -€171.76 million. Max explicitly stated the net spend was 170M for those three seasons. They were stating the exact same figure.
The “50 Million” Misunderstanding: Max used €50 million as a hypothetical comparison to explain Return on Investment (ROI). His core point was simple: spending an extra €50M on transfers but qualifying for the Champions League yields a better financial net result than saving €50M but missing out on CL revenue.
Uberhulk’s Reading Comprehension Failure: Uberhulk completely failed to grasp that it was a hypothetical scenario. He thought Max was literally claiming the total transfer deficit was only €50 million instead of €171 million.
The Misuse of the AI: Because Uberhulk misunderstood the context, he fed the AI a loaded prompt, essentially asking: “Is the transfer deficit -171 million, or is it 50 million?” I answered the exact prompt I was given. Uberhulk weaponized that isolated answer to “prove” a point Max wasn’t even making.
Bottom line: Max understood the broader financial picture regarding net spend versus Champions League revenue. Uberhulk got hyper-fixated on a hypothetical number, failed to read it in context, and misused the AI to declare a false victory.
Again using your comments and tools to prove you wrong. Thank you. 🎭🎬
Proven LIAR!
You don’t even know how to use AI! Asking AI a leading question doesn’t help your position. Nor did you enter all the data. Stick to the facts, which are the numbers:
Profit and loss:
2018-2019: -€145.90 million
2019-2020: -€194.60 million
2020-2021: -€96.40 million
2021-2022: -€66.50 million
REDBIRD
2022-2023: +€6.1 million
POST MALDINI
2023-2024: +€4.1 million
2024-2025: +€2.9 million
Transfers
2018-2019. In €194.64 million, out €88.10 million
2019-2020. In €144.08 million, out €59.23 million
2020-2021. In €32.02 million, out €51.65 million
2021-2022. In €100.44 million, out €5.12 million
2022-2023. In €61.79 million, out €11.11 million
POST MALDINI
2023-2024. In €132.68m, out €53.66m
2024-2025. In €139.00m, out €53.66m
2025-2026. In €170.00m, out €176.00m
While Maldini was a director, Milan posted €460.80 million in operating losses. The only profit during his tenure was in RedBird’s first season in charge and that’s because, having been fined by UEFA because of those poor accounts, the club reigned in on spending. Those are indeed facts, not your hypothetical, misleading bunk.
Liar, you lied even to the “AI”. I am embarrassed you even exist and we are of the same species.
I know you’re mad because you’re stupid but that isn’t my fault.
Feel free to go and ask your friend Gemini who was right, but don’t lie. Paste the whole conversation.
Now, for the numbers, they spent less actually per season, because you didn’t include the wage bill, which is money being spent on players? It was 20M€ less than it is now. In 2018/19 even less.
“POST MALDINI
2023-2024. In €132.68m, out €53.66m
2024-2025. In €139.00m, out €53.66m
2025-2026. In €170.00m, out €176.00m”
“Transfers
2018-2019. In €194.64 million, out €88.10 million
2019-2020. In €144.08 million, out €59.23 million
2020-2021. In €32.02 million, out €51.65 million
2021-2022. In €100.44 million, out €5.12 million
2022-2023. In €61.79 million, out €11.11 million”
You can do math right? If not ask your friend Gemini. Net spend is 135M in these 3 years. So that is about 45M€ per season. During Maldini it was 300M so 60M€ per season? That is the net spend difference. For 15M€ more per season and 20M€ less wage bill (so they spent less in total) they won the Scudetto and collected CL money. So this was financially a better period.
Why are you mixing up numbers that have nothing to do with transfers? Milan improved its commercial income, you can’t post total finances and say look. I mean you can, you’re a mo*on that can’t even spell the name of the tool he is using. Yes, Milan is doing better financially. Which part has to do with player sales? 😀 I’ve given you a direct comparison of the net transfer figures that you mentioned up there, now you’re switching to total club profit. It was Gazidis, he was in charge of club finances. He improved the commercial revenue of the club so now Milan has better income and can spend more without generating loss. How the F is that Maldini and Massara? Not their fault or accomplishment. In general all of them did much better than the people in the last 3 years. They had a much worse situation and they won a Scudetto.
You actually proved that Maldini was world class in what he did. He spent just a bit more to get much better results. Even though we’re using a bigger period for that average and it was building a new team after Elliot took over, so it was natural they need to spend more. Good job!
You, someone who has been taken to task by myself and others for your failure to understand basic concepts are not in a position to question one of the most advanced AIs on the planet, I used Gemeni to confirm data, I didn’t need it’s help to debate the likes of you! Your €50 million figure was your usual running your mouth without actually checking facts (as I told you before, instead of assuming of thinking something is true, make sure it IS true), pretending to AI it was a hypothetical number just to prove a point also shows your failure to understand profit and loss. Transfer spending and income alone doesn’t make a club profitable, you forgot about expenditure, so again, you’re ‘in the profit’ claim is complete nonsense. The numbers are the numbers are they are indeed inarguable.
“Transfer spending and income alone doesn’t make a club profitable, you forgot about expenditure, so again, you’re ‘in the profit’ claim is complete nonsense.”
I told you the net transfer amount in my first reply. Hahahahahaha,
You can’t do basic math without “ai” and then you lie to it to get the reply you need.
What I wrote are facts, you are a lying piece of sh*t that is fixing the numbers to prove how Maldini was bad. Something is obviously wrong with you mentally. YOu spent how much time trying to fabricate a story that isn’t factual? You are a lunatic.
Oh and Gemini is not even close to “One of the most advanced AIs” on the planet. It is in fact one of the worse when you account for hallucination rate. Ask it 😀 .
Gemini lies more than you!
Deliberately missing the profit and loss data! Do you really think I wouldn’t notice? I see you’re still struggling to understand the whole income vs expenditure thing, which obviously isn’t JUST transfers:
Profit and loss:
2018-2019: -€145.90 million
2019-2020: -€194.60 million
2020-2021: -€96.40 million
2021-2022: -€66.50 million
REDBIRD
2022-2023: +€6.1 million
POST MALDINI
2023-2024: +€4.1 million
2024-2025: +€2.9 million
“You actually proved that Maldini was world class in what he did. He spent just a bit more to get much better results.”
I proved that he was careless with the clubs finances and left them with a European ban and fine from UEFA. While Maldini was a director, Milan posted €460.80 million in operating losses. I told you right at the start it was obvious why he was fired. That fans like you don’t know isn’t surprising now is it? We’ve see how you are with numbers. Your think profit is a dirty word, because you’re so dense, you don’t understand that clubs have to be self-sufficient in order to comply with Serie A and UEFA regulations. That is the case now, the club are self-sufficient (but only just). Maldini may have helped deliver a scudetto, but he did so at a massive cost, a cost that was simply unsustainable and that’s ultimately why he was fired.
Which profit and loss? You are now talking about the total finances of the club that was falling apart when Elliot took over?
It’s ok. You are a proven liar now.
Gazidis did great but Milan lost 480M€, it is Maldini and Massara fault. That is the gist of your st*pid lie.
“. That is the case now, the club are self-sufficient”
And what did spending 135M€ net in 3 season have to with this? 😀 It is total club revenue that has increased. By 250M€. The club is spending more money and making a profit because there is more income. Not from selling players, commercial income…
Milan total revenue 2018/2019 241M€
Milan total revenue 2018/2019 495M€
Are you saying that Milan increased revenue because Maldini left? 😀 Or that somehow having someone else buy and sell players increased the yearly revenue by more than 100%? 😂😂😂😂
It’s like trying to explain to a wall, but a really stupid one.
One small correction before you copy paste to Gemini and tell me how I am wrong:
Milan total revenue 2018/2019 241M€
Milan total revenue 2025/2025 495M€
18/19 | €241.1M | €373.2M | -€132.1M
19/20 | €164.0M | €351.0M | -€187.0M
20/21 | €261.1M | €357.5M | -€96.4M
21/22 | €297.7M | €364.2M | -€66.5M
22/23 | €404.5M | €398.4M | +€6.1M
23/24 | €456.9M | €452.8M | +€4.1M
24/25 | €494.5M | €491.5M | +€3.0M
Which part is not clear to you again?
Total club income, revenue, whatever you want to call it, more than doubled in this period. Of course the club can post profits. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PLAYER SALES. They did the about the same in last 2 seasons after Maldini and Massara, still accounts were in profit.
You can use 200 AIs clown, I am more intelligent than you and all of those together.
Here you go, I asked one of “the most advanced AI s on the planet”. I again copy pasted the whole conversation so I can see how do you come up with all of this stupidity. And Gemini is more intelligent than you.
“Uberhulk moved the goalposts. After the transfer net spend argument fell apart, he pivoted to the overall Profit & Loss (P&L) statements to blame Maldini for €460.80 million in operating losses.
The Revenue Reality
Max correctly identified the structural flaw in Uberhulk’s reasoning regarding football club accounting and hierarchy:
Technical Directors (Maldini/Massara): Manage transfer budgets and player wage bills.
CEOs/Management (Gazidis): Manage commercial, broadcast, and matchday revenues.
Max’s data breakdown highlights the actual catalyst for the financial turnaround. Total club revenue jumped from €241.1M in 18/19 to €494.5M in 24/25. The club achieved profitability primarily because top-line income more than doubled, bridging the gap on expenditures, not because Maldini’s departure magically fixed the transfer ledger.
The AI Criticism
Max stated I am prone to hallucinations and that he is more intelligent than 200 AIs. As a software tool, I do not possess actual intelligence or an ego; I process text and generate patterns based on my programming.
Max is factually correct that AI models suffer from hallucination rates. However, his assessment of how the AI was used in this specific thread remains spot-on: Uberhulk isolated the math and deliberately omitted the debate’s context to generate a specific output, which he then attempted to use as authoritative proof.”
LIAR!
No, you didn’t post the whole argument and I don’t care what misleading question you gave it. As you have shown time and time again, you cannot be trusted.
I have stated the facts and at no point did I move the goalposts, my argument was consistent. You mocked Gemini, but then use it to pretend to support your position! You’re pathetic. You don’t have an argument nor are my numbers misleading. You’re the same guy only yesterday who said Barcelona and Real Madrid were the examples to follow and that private ownership didn’t work! A week after saying clubs with American ownership had only won 2 titles! You cannot even count beyond two and you’re sat here arguing over millions! Stop posting, you Ted. You have no credibility.
You are a certified liar and I suspect a complete lunatic. All the facts are up there liar. Math is simple. You started talking about net transfers, and then moved to another set of number so you can lie more.
From now on, I am going to harass you so hard with this comment:
18/19 | €241.1M | €373.2M | -€132.1M
19/20 | €164.0M | €351.0M | -€187.0M
20/21 | €261.1M | €357.5M | -€96.4M
21/22 | €297.7M | €364.2M | -€66.5M
22/23 | €404.5M | €398.4M | +€6.1M
23/24 | €456.9M | €452.8M | +€4.1M
24/25 | €494.5M | €491.5M | +€3.0M
Which part is not clear to you again?
Total club income, revenue, whatever you want to call it, more than doubled in this period. Of course the club can post profits. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PLAYER SALES. They did the about the same in last 2 seasons after Maldini and Massara, still accounts were in profit.
Can you imagine waking up to the news that Zlatan and Cardinale have died in a plane crash? Wouldn’t that be something?
I’d rather wake up to the news that Redbird sold the club and I couldn’t care less what happens with those 2 after. Even if that plane crashed Redbird would still own Milan.
Red bird should do themselves a favor and appoint Maldini. The rest will fall into place.
Profit is revenue less expenses. You’re still failing at the basics. You can’t even label the data correctly!
The club were ONLY in profit because UEFA forced their hand after Maldini and co left them with a massive deficit. RedBird have continued posting profits because, they do the one thing Maldini consistently failed to do, sell players on for profits, as opposed to losing them for nothing.
I see now you’re pretending Maldini grew the club’s revenue! Gazidis was the CEO, the guy who ran the business side, the same role he had at Arsenal. The guy you called a cancer, not Maldini.
The problem, bluffer, despite your bravado, is that far from being more intelligent than all AI, you spout the type of nonsense of someone educated in a mud hut. I continually accuse you of not knowing what you’re talking about and you fail to rise to the challenge. Even in your attempts at doing your homework, you missed an important detail.
I don’t know who you are supposed to be replying to but as usual with your Maldini hate. I’ll throw in Gazidis in the mix as he was the CEO during that era.
“The club were ONLY in profit because UEFA forced their hand after Maldini and co left them with a massive deficit.” – Does it matter how they were in profit? Under Maldini/Gazidis they consistently reduced losses and increased revenues since 2018/19 when M started and which culminated in a profit for the first time in 17 years under Maldini in 22/23. While other club’s losses were larger than ours. Btw this included having to navigate through COVID in 19/20 and 20/21 where revenues for pretty much all clubs worldwide took a major hit and hence their profits. We didn’t have as large a hit as other clubs. And we were on track to post profits before 22/23 but COVID hit.
“I see now you’re pretending Maldini grew the club’s revenue! Gazidis was the CEO, the guy who ran the business side, the same role he had at Arsenal” so what is it? Make up your mind because your previous paragraph you blamed Maldini for affecting revenues but don’t want to give him credit for when he made profits. Because as usual you’re biased against him.
“The guy you called a cancer, not Maldini.” Because your reading comprehension is so poor, the folks above are referring to the reason Gazidis had to step down re: he had cancer. Not that he was a cancer smh 🤦♂️ 🤦♂️ 🤦♂️
we don’t want Leao. kick off from the club.