CM: Milan put Messias and Saelemaekers up for sale – the situation

By Oliver Fisher -

The AC Milan management are working hard to fine tune the squad ahead of next season and there is also a mission to sell players who are not key to the project.

According to Calciomercato.com, Giorgio Furlani and Geoffrey Moncada are focusing on free transfers and sales in the first part of the transfer window, with Junior Messias and Alexis Saelemaekers in the crosshairs.

Milan consider Messias up for sale, a decision which has been communicated to the player. The Brazilian has another year left on his contract with the Rossoneri and will have to decide whether to try and convince the club or go elsewhere, with Torino having made an enquiry.

In more surprising news, Saelemaekers could also leave. The Belgian expressed some disappointment at having been used very little by Pioli during the latter stages of the season.

The likely arrival of a starter-level right winger would further limit the chances of establishing himself, so a farewell really is possible. He has admirers in the Bundesliga and could leave Italy in the summer for the right price.

Tags AC Milan Alexis Saelemaekers Junior Messias

53 Comments

  1. For Salaemakers it is a mistake. He played quite well, even on LW. We developed him and played him while he was doing bad, and he will be sold when he started playing well. Literally the best winger after Leao last season and he is only 23. It would be better to keep him as at least LW backup then get another Origi.

        1. Yes yes, in your dreams. Whole season, Messias 5 goals 2 assists, Saelemakers 4 goals 3 assists. What are you talking about? How can you make up stuff, what is wrong with you?

    1. Agree 100%. Valuable back-up able to play both LW and RW, he always gives everything, doesn’t make any fuss when he doesn’t play. But I also think he’s one of the non-starters with the best value and they are probably looking to raise some funds.

      1. Yes, but if the club sells Messias, Salaemakers, Origi and Rebic, we have only Leao as a winger. We need to sign 3 players. Where will the money come from? It isn’t realistic that they can reinvest that money to buy 3 actually good wingers, and one has to be a starter on RW. Maybe Orsolini, he is the type of winger we need, dangerous dribbler, fast – so Leao doesn’t have to do 90% on his own.

        1. I’d give up Saele in a heartbeat to get Orsolini. A definite upgrade that would win us many matches for years to come.

          1. F yeah Orsolini would be great, he can score from the RW position. And he has only one year left in his contract.

            @Martin I think they put both Saelemaekers and Messias on the transfer list but they would only sell one, the first with a good offer.

          2. If Salaemakers really wants to leave, he will leave. Messias is useless to keep, 31, 1 year contract. I would sell him for 4-6M to Torino or Monza who probably want him.

  2. Salaemakers is a great squad player. I think it will be a mistake to let him leave. I’d be sad to see him leave.

  3. Id keep saelemaekers, always liked him, he always works his socks off and can play vaious positions and is a quite techniically gifted player,

    1. Saladmaker want starter . Cannot play him often even if we sell junior and bring quality RW. . The reason why junior get more playing time than him because junior can score goal more than saladmaker . Salad are defensive winger that lacking atribute atack . If he want to leave ,better let him leave

      1. Not true at all. He scored 2 goals more. 2 goals. And that is 6. 100% fake, everyone keeps writing it but it is not true.

      2. martin has a point below that i agree with and saeleamaekers is far younger so if anything we should be able to expect more from the brazilian and its not like he has offered much more in contribution,

        I will agree though to one thing, if the player were to ask to getting sold i wouldnt oppose it as he has been a good servant of the club but otheriwse i would keep him unless we actually gets a great offer for him that could help facilitate a signing like for example berradi who would guarantee great ammounts of goals and assists,

  4. I agree with most of us here that Alexis is not a great idea. But to be fair, if he wants to leave, he needs to leave. My guess is that he wants a starting position that he can have in many clubs. I think we can make a decent bit of business from a transfer.

    This means we need not one but two right-wingers. Missing one is difficult enough as it is.

  5. Yes, but if the club sells Messias, Salaemakers, Origi and Rebic, we have only Leao as a winger. We need to sign 3 players. Where will the money come from? It isn’t realistic that they can reinvest that money to buy 3 actually good wingers, and one has to be a starter on RW. Maybe Orsolini, he is the type of winger we need, dangerous dribbler, fast – so Leao doesn’t have to do 90% on his own.

  6. While Alexis is good squad player he doesn’t have the quality. He can be very selfish at times and costs Milan opportunities in attack with his poor decision making. Messias I will drive to his new team. Single handedly ruined any chance we had against inter.

    Both leaving isn’t bad. We will miss Alexis defensively though so I’m indifferent there. If the plan is to move CDK to RW and bring in another winger. It makes sense.

  7. Love Salemakers, would be a grave mistake to let him GO, has the tenacity and loyalty of Gattuso.

    Messias to assist in purchase of Baldanzi

      1. Yea, look where that mindset got Napoli last summer. Two world class players for less than the sale price of Koulibaly. Got Jvara, Kim, Raspadori, Simeone, Anguissa and MADE 4m on the overall market. I guess that’s a s*** strategy though since they only won the Scudetto.

        There are 5 players on this squad I wouldn’t sell: Leao, Theo, Maignan, Tonali, and Calabria. The first 3 are world class and the other two embody the Italian heritage of the club. Anybody else I would absolutely sell for a good offer.

      2. Almost. I only wouldn’t sell Theo, Maignan, Tonali, Leao, and Calabria. Everyone else can go for the right price.

        Atalanta strategy? That’s why Napoli got Kvara, Simeone, Raspadori, Anguissa and Kim almost entirely from the sale of Koulibaly and Fabian Ruiz. No sentimentality, just good business. All they have to show for that strategy is a Scudetto.

        1. Even someone like you could understand that they got lucky. You’ll see who will they sign to replace those players and how will they do. Maybe they will get lucky again, but not for 5 or 10M. But 2-3 years ago they spent 150M in the summer, NET SPEND. Those players are still there, they also won the Scudetto. Osimhen was paid 75m€ 3 years ago. That is more than the Milan seasonal budget is. But even if we go along with the lie you want to present as a fact and say that had nothing to do with and they won the title by making 4M, can you show us another club that is using similar transfer policy and is playing in one of the top 5 leagues and playing in CL every year? You can’t. It does not exist.

          You don’t understand anything and every time you cherry-pick a specific situation to prove yourself right. Stop being ridiculous, write facts, not what you want to be true. Napoli invested a lot into their team to get to the title challenge, and they have been investing for years.

          1. Luck plays a factor. Kvara was offered to Miln first but we didn’t go for him and instead we went for CDK the following summer. Kvara could have torn an ACL day one and CDK could have scored a dozen goals. Didn’t happen that way. I think anyone at the start of the season would have thought Napoli would have been worse off after losing Koulibaly, Ruiz and Insigne. But they made shrewd signings and it worked out. They sold well and bought even better. The best clubs on the world buy and sell regularly. We don’t have the same margins yet, but we will soon after a new stadium and improved TV and sponsorship deals. You seem to think I don’t want them to invest in the squad and I don’t enjoy when my team wins. Like any fan of any sport feels that way….
            I just believe the long term strategy will be good for the club. There is evidence to support that and there is evidence to the contrary as well. We will see…

          2. You are again writing like it was planned. Koulibaly said he wants to leave and try a new challenge, 40M for him, ok. 23M for Fabian Ruiz? He was a 60M valued player at that point. He had an expiring contract, and they were forced to accept.

            Realistically, their outgoing transfers were a disaster. Yes, they got lucky with the signings, but they did horribly to receive 63M total for players that could have gotten them 100M each, just a season before. That is just bad.

            It took them years to win the title, they have been investing for a long time.

            But what exactly? You are saying that a club that won the title last season and was in semi finals of CL can’t spend 70-100M this season? (And we all know the CL brought in extra 50M for getting to the semi final alone). That is the minimum fee that was supposed to be added to the pre-determined budget. Nobody said to spend 200M. But if you are obviously missing 5-7 players, you go for it like Napoli did in 19/20 and you spend 100-150M and then you just patch the team every season. Milan is missing players on almost every position. Whole midfield is thin, wings are horrible, AM situation is unknown, left back backup doesn’t exist, right back I guess Florenzi has recovered. If you miss that many players you can’t go for a 30M or 50M window if you want good players. I mean you can sign deadwood but why? Just leave the existing Origis and those guys and move on…

          3. Check this out. Almost every single one of these players had a say in the scudetto and is still part of the first team. They filled up the positions that they needed and built upon that. This is how you do it, I do agree with Napoli’s transfer strategy. We are now where they were in 19/20 and our incoming transfers should be in big numbers (I mean 6-7 good players; they don’t have to cost 50M each).

            Hirving Lozano €45.00m
            Konstantinos Manolas €36.00m
            Alex Meret €26.00m
            Stanislav Lobotka €21.00m
            Andrea Petagna €16.60m
            Eljif Elmas €16.20m
            Amir Rrahmani €14.20m
            Diego Demme €10.25m
            Giovanni Di Lorenzo €9.80m
            David Ospina €3.50m
            Matteo Politano loan fee€2.50m

          4. I’d like to point out that Napoli only spent 50m in cash for Osimhen. The rest of the value was made up of primavera players (many of whom have long been released by Lille) and Karnezis. Plusvalenza baby.

          5. “Check this out. Almost every single one of these players had a say in the scudetto and is still part of the first team. They filled up the positions that they needed and built upon that. This is how you do it, I do agree with Napoli’s transfer strategy. We are now where they were in 19/20 and our incoming transfers should be in big numbers (I mean 6-7 good players; they don’t have to cost 50M each).”

            Napoli also has 14 years of straight qualification for Europe and no settlement agreement with UEFA. Where they were in 19/20 was 11 years of European qualification and not 300m in debt. We’ve only be back for 3 years after nothing for 8 and we still have a SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. They’ve been building cash flow for years, buying players at the right time and selling at the right time, while qualifying for Europe, etc. They’ve had STABILITY. Also, are you privy to Napoli’s books or something? How do you know they don’t have 200-300m in debt right now?

            BTW:
            forbes.com/teams/ac-milan/?sh=56dc2f513a03

            forbes.com/teams/napoli/?sh=795b65326cd4

            Look at OPERATING INCOME, and then historical operating income and hover over the bars. See how only turned a 11m profit this past season and have been negative since 2015? Now look at Napoli’s historical operating income. LOL.

        2. Also, I forgot, they made 4M if you do not include the transfer of Raspadori, he was on loan for 5M. They paid extra 30M to sign him, it was a loan with obligation to buy…

        3. You can disagree without making personal attacks on my intelligence. You invalidate everything to say by acting like a jerk.
          Also the summer they bought Osimhen for 75m they had 123m in sales. Their net balance for that transfer window was 45m.
          Take a breath and do 5 minutes of research before you come at me 🙂

        4. Napoli did have a window like that, but a year before they spent 160M€. And most of the players signed still play in or around the first team so they did not need to sign players in that position, they were missing a striker only. All the players that were sold were sold for 15M+ to lower Italian clubs which didn’t or won’t happen ever again in the same season. You again did exactly what I described. Cherry-picked one thing and used that to try to prove something.

        5. “…can you show us another club that is using similar transfer policy and is playing in one of the top 5 leagues and playing in CL every year? “

        6. I don’t think you are capable of thinking critically if I am being honest. You have on your blinders and that is fine. Martin knows more than Cardinale, more than Moncada and definitely more than everyone on the internet. I’m sure you were thrilled when Elliot took over the team and put in a salary cap. You probably thought it was a disaster until we won that Scudetto. I guess that was also luck, and may actually be to some degree. Now RedBird is the subject of your disdain. That’s fine. Time will tell who is right and who is empty headed.

  8. Don’t know about Messias but Saele was definitely a Moncada recommendation. I wonder if it’s because he hasn’t progressed as well as they thought he would have?
    As for Messias, not sure why he was even redeemed tbh. I mean great back story and all but I’m the end that alone doesn’t cut it

    1. Saladmaker are purely massara scouting and maldini execute massara recomendation. For junior & florenzi , i dont know why maldini activate buy option and give both of them 3 years contract( including one year loan ) ada

      1. Why would u say purely Massara? I’ve read in the past that he was an admirer but Moncada recommended him 🤷‍♂️ (athletic, sport magazine, times,others take ur pick). If anything 3Ms 🤷‍♂️ because herein lies the problem. It was never one person that made the decision contrary to what the media be feeding ppl

  9. Hopefully Messias will survive, even though he is minimally a core player, but he can count on the number of goals and assists, can be relied on in one on one situations, skills and techniques are okay, even Alexis is sold

  10. Alexis is frustrated at the lack of playing time. He isn’t good enough as a starter and won’t want to warm the bench for another season, so yea, offload him along with that bum Messias and upgrade the Right Wing. No problems with him leaving. CDK can be a back up if he gets it together.

  11. Messias will get us MINUS 5M LOL. Sales should not be sold. He is what he is. A perfect player off the bench to hold a lead. Solid backup and always give’s 100%. Messes with the team chemistry – but Redbird don’t care. PROFIT – so I’m not surprised. Can’t wait till we sell Theo and Leao…

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