Journalist Andrea Longoni believes that the investigation into AC Milan’s ownership situation is proceeding without much anxiety because ‘no worrying facts seem to emerge’.
There has been a cloud hanging over Milan since the news broke on Tuesday of the club’s offices being raided, and La Gazzetta dello Sport gave a good round-up of what we know so far by answering seven key questions.
Since the storm earlier in the week things have gone a bit quiet, perhaps because the evidence collected needs to be sifted through but also maybe because the clarifications that have arrived make it seem like there is no case to answer.
As another bit of essential reading, Felice Raimondo picked apart the various angles that could be brought against the club in a fantastic piece.
Longoni has written about the situation in a column for MilanNews, and he made an interesting revelation about the prosecutor which should raise some eyebrows.
“While waiting to understand what developments the investigation into the real ownership of the Club will have. Compared to Tuesday’s immediate scare, as the days go by, no worrying facts seem to emerge, on the contrary,” he began.
“Conversely, we are talking about professionals, but learning that the Prosecutor Marcello Viola is an avid Inter fan, given this indisputable fact and declared by himself, makes one turn up one’s nose at the very least.
“The affair then confirmed, if there were still any need, Cardinale’s negotiations with the Arab world, also with PIF, one of the two interested groups: in all this there are those who still do not give up even in the face of official documents, written in black and white.”
If this is true and and there isnt any thing to this case and there is actual clear proof that its a “political” decision to put a spoke in our wheel he should be disbarred as he would lack moral credibility in the future.
And Inter stripped of the title?
I mean they haven’t actually reached 20 titles because 3 of them should be discounted because calciopoli (is my line and I am sticking with it).
Well unless the club has anything to do with it then i would say no.
Calciopoli is a different matter.
I was sort of joking….but only sort of.
Inter do seem to attract a certain type.
Hahaha like I said, this thing smells of Calciopoli where Inter bamboozled everyone to thinking they were squeaky clean and set up a commission with their own people “investigating” all the other clubs smh. How these ppl.have two stars is beyond me. Farce-ipoli part 2 incoming if we’re not careful.
No such thing happened in Calciopoli. You’re embarassing yourself.
I’m not embarrassing myself but you’re clearly showing your age. What YOU need to do is brush up on your history. I don’t need to sound like a broken record like ppl around here. Go read the thread about Calciopoli in a previous article.
Showing my age? I’m pretty sure I’m older than you, boy.
I read dozens of articles about Calciopoli written by journalists, I even saw transactions of the Italian transcripts, I don’t need to read threads by layman. Do you have any actual evidence from a credible source to support your claims? Understand how facts are established.
Lol ok buddy if u say so. You took me saying Inter setup the commission as literal but you don’t have to go far to see their involvement. Why didn’t u just ask yourself who spearheaded the commission and save yourself all the trouble? You went all out trying to prove the cleanliness of Inter and sound more Interisti than Milanista sheesh!
Let’s keep it simple. A short summarization: Check out who was the FIGC Commissioner at the time (Guido Rossi, former Inter director and Inter **shareholder**, who after the dust settled became on the board/President for Telecom Italia or TIM). Telecom Italia or TIM conducted the wiretaps, indirectly owned by Interisti. Moratti also sat on TIM’s board.
The ‘original’ (really and truly the original wiretaps came to light a couple years earlier but thrown out in the courts of Naples, Turin and Rome) set of news broke, illegally, through GdS which created a frenzy and whose owner was an Interisti (Carlo Buora, acting Inter Vice President and owner of Gazzetta plus became VP of TIM and was the CEO and GM of Pirelli , the direct and main sponsors of Inter). You’re telling me there’s no conflict of interest here??
The wiretaps initially contained all other clubs and deliberately only left out Inter…hmmm I wonder why. Later it was found Inter was doing the same thing as everyone else through the very same wiretaps but 1. Never was initially considered by the commissioner (Rossi) as evidence even though in the “investigation” even though it was requested that it was (See the makeup of the Inter-leaning commission) and 2. By the time it eventually gathered track the statue of limitations had expired so was inadmissible. Inter, even though they did exactly the same things as everyone else ie spoke to the ref designator, came off scotch free with Scudetto to boot. Tell me, why wire taps from two years earlier gave Inter the Scudetto in 2006 and not earlier???? (see above for the timeline before the release to media). Hmmm 🤔? You said you read so much, did you read the ruling from FIGC which has indicated that Article 6 wasn’t violated ie fraud and match fixing based on the wiretap evidence yet they still punished clubs??? Make that make sense. Matter of fact act even with your own “evidence” you’ve provided, why does Inter need to compensate anyone if they’re guilt free?. Bro the whole thing is a farce. The more you ask yourself some simple questions humble yourself and realize wtf happened, you’ll see the light.
Repeating the same ‘Moggi and Juve are bad’ mantra (not saying they’re angels) is exactly what Inter wanted and got it, it seems, because if that’s the case then everyone is bad. Either all the club’s got punished for doing something which the ref association was encouraging at the time or we’re all innocent.
“Understand how facts are established” lil bro, these are alllll facts. Know your history !
What actually happened is that Inter signed an agreement to compensate those involved in the wiretapping, they didn’t setup a commission to investigate other clubs, as you falsely claimed.
https://football-italia.net/calciopoli-investigation-stopped-at-juventus-because-of-media-leaks/
Rai 3 aired a special investigation into the 2006 Calciopoli scandal this evening, including new interviews suggesting Juventus were by no means the only ones in contact over referees and that Inter were saved by a leak to the media.
The last few days have already seen some of the statements in the papers, along with disgraced former Juve director Luciano Moggi – considered the head of the system brought down by Calciopoli – handing a USB key with 170,000 intercepted phone calls to various newspapers.
Television programme ‘Report’ aired its episode this evening on Rai 3 and there were new interviews, including with Paolo Bergamo, who was the refereeing designator from 1999 to 2005.
“(Then Inter President Massimo) Moratti called me to go to dinner with him in July 2002. I went to his house, we sat down along with our wives and not even five minutes later he says: You have to tell me why the referees hate Inter. He believed we were sending referees that were hostile to Inter, to make them lose.”
According to Report, Inter signed a secret agreement to compensate those who were involved in illegal wiretaps and investigations, including the refereeing designator Bergamo.
The facts have been established. Your claim are just that, claims. I’m not interested in debating fan theories, nor do I care why Inter agreed to compensate the investigators, nor does that in anyway shape or form ‘prove’ they’re complicit. Conjecture doesn’t stand up in court. You falsely claimed Inter were behind the investigations, you were hopelessly wrong, now you’re resorting to throwing mud, hoping some will stick. As I said, show evidence from credible sources to support your claims. You cannot.
What actually happened is that Inter signed an agreement to compensate those involved in the wiretapping, they didn’t setup a commission to investigate other clubs, as you falsely claimed:
Rai 3 aired a special investigation into the 2006 Calciopoli scandal this evening, including new interviews suggesting Juventus were by no means the only ones in contact over referees and that Inter were saved by a leak to the media.
The last few days have already seen some of the statements in the papers, along with disgraced former Juve director Luciano Moggi – considered the head of the system brought down by Calciopoli – handing a USB key with 170,000 intercepted phone calls to various newspapers.
Television programme ‘Report’ aired its episode this evening on Rai 3 and there were new interviews, including with Paolo Bergamo, who was the refereeing designator from 1999 to 2005.
“(Then Inter President Massimo) Moratti called me to go to dinner with him in July 2002. I went to his house, we sat down along with our wives and not even five minutes later he says: You have to tell me why the referees hate Inter. He believed we were sending referees that were hostile to Inter, to make them lose.”
According to Report, Inter signed a secret agreement to compensate those who were involved in illegal wiretaps and investigations, including the refereeing designator Bergamo.
source: football Italia
LMAO literally proved my point. I knew I didn’t hv to say much
“Remember Galliani who was head of Lega at the time stepped down because of conflict of interests in the investigations.”
Wrong, again. He resigned AFTER Milan were charged, it had nothing to do with a conflict of interests. What was I saying about your lack of credibility? There’s no real need for me to go through the rest of your guff. The fact remains Inter didn’t set up a commission to investigate the other clubs. You can keep spamming your conspiracy theories and dodgy conclusions all you want.
Galliani, who wore two hats as the director of AC Milan and president of the Italian league, had resisted calls for his resignation after it emerged last month that he was under investigation in a game-fixing scandal that has captivated Italy. On Thursday, when both Galliani and his team were formally charged with sporting fraud and violations of fairness, Galliani could resist no more.
Source: The New York Times
““Remember Galliani who was head of Lega at the time stepped down because of conflict of interests in the investigations.”
Wrong, again. He resigned AFTER Milan were charged”.
You read all this and your gotcha moment was the timing of Galliani’s resignation??🤦♂️ That was the primary conflict of interest at the time numbnut. Where in my quotes was I wrong? You’re trying so desperately hard to prove me wrong for a part that’s so much less consequential and less important relative to the other points. And to make it worse it’s the part about Milan and not a word about Inter; ignores all the facts about them btw, Mr Inter! And the thing is, for me, Galliani ain’t no angel either, never said he was, much less even our owner at the time. But what I’m not going to do is act like Inter are.
I’ve already said Inter, THE CLUB, didn’t set up a commission to investigate other clubs if you bothered to read about me facetious or have common sense – so you can move past that point as your sole recurring argument just to avoid all the other stated facts I’ve provided -, but someone with a stake in Inter did set up a commission to investigate other clubs, didn’t they?
That’s not a conspiracy my friend. It’s basic fact. Rossi was a shareholder at the time for Inter. And your best attempt to frame a dodgy conclusion on me is
that I said the whole thing was a farce because of COI??? What?? Lol 😂.
I never said when Galliani stepped down, only that he did for the reasons as stated. Read properly next time so you dont embarass yourself. Didn’t he not face pressure leading up to his resignation?? Can’t be the Lega pres and have charges against you at the same time, right ( plus a COI was brought up anyway way before 06 by Moratti and Sensi according to Corriera Della Sera (sp?) Since you like sources but that’s too much to write I figure summarizing would get you the point but now I realize you’re so fixated on us being bad and Inter being virgin Madonna). The point of me mentioning that, which obviously you didn’t get, was that we removed ourselves from any COI prior to the tribunal processes whereas the FIGC Commissioner, who was partial in that he was an active shareholder to Inter and had an interest in Inter, did not. When you tack on the other stuff (where the wiretaps came from and the linkages to one particular club who was also complicit but avoided punishment) imo the investigation was riddled with conflicts of interest and couldn’t be impartial. There should have been an independent third party doing all of this.
Btw, stop making it look as if Galliani waited like months to resign because you had the word ‘after’ in caps. Galliani resigned on the same day the charges were formally laid (June 22). I dont care if it’s the morning or afternoon, that’s way besides the point and you trying to distract from/ignore all the other Inter related issues in the investigation.
At least rebuttal with something meaningful please since you like facts so much and are the king of debate apparently .. wherever you’re from. Now that that trivial matter is resolved you can go read the other parts you ignore Mr. Interisti but please do read properly.
And since you like to quote things so much and accuse ppl of not having one here(you know where and can click on the sources yourself):
“its (FIGC sic) successor Guido Rossi was a former member of Inter Milan’s board of directors and minority Inter Milan shareholder. Journalist Christian Rocca commented: “I wonder why the Italian media say every possible abomination on the potential conflict of interest of Adriano Galliani, president of Lega [Calcio] and executive of Milan, but don’t use the same criterion towards Guido Rossi, extraordinary commissioner of the Italian Football Federation and former executive of Moratti’s Inter Milan from 1995 to 1999, and of Gigi Agnolin, appointed commissioner of referees but still former executive of Roma from 1995 to 2000 (instead of Moggi, look what a combination).” Federal prosecutor Carlo Porceddu, a critic of the trial, especially for its decision of revoking Juventus’ title by assigning it to Inter Milan, stated in 2017 that Rossi appointed friends, one of whom was on Inter Milan’s board of directors.”
Nice try, but when someone refutes your bogus claims and exposes your credibility, instead of pathetically trying to save face, remain silent. You made a complete show of yourself.
Ahahahaha. I’ll take that as you’ve learnt something today. That’s a good thing. There are zero things in that comment that’s not factual. ALL OF IT IS TRUE! The FIGC Commissioner was an inter shareholder – he had an active interest in Inter, former Inter director, that’s a fact and that’s a clear conflict of interest. Remember Galliani who was head of Lega at the time stepped down because of conflict of interests in the investigations. Buora published a private convo involving a public entity, that’s illegal and also fact. Boura also had a direct interest in Inter, that’s a fact. Inter sat on the company that did the wiretaps , that’s a fact. Inter’s portion of wiretaps were withheld in the 06 investigation, that’s a fact. Inter were guilty of the same thing Juve was. The FIGC judge (Pallazo? Sp I think) later ruled so that’s a cold hard fact that doesn’t make the rounds often. I don’t see that in your write up Mr. “all Inter did was compensate”. FOH with that nonsense. And I haven’t even gotten into the match fixing part of it or the inconsistencies in the CAF verdict which I highly suggest you read. All of the above are available for free on the web if you don’t believe a non journalist (instead of just one football Italia article, go check out Rai, Mediaset, bleacher report, ESPN, goal archives) and the more you read the worse it gets.
So basically, they set up a commission with an Inter shareholder at the head, relegate Juve on a non-relegation charge, handed Inter Juve’s Scudetto not in the year of the evidence, withheld evidence that would have implicated Inter (remember Moggi asked specifically in court that the recordings for all clubs be made available for completeness but it was rejected by Rossi), Inter was charged with the same exact offense as Juve but never gave Inter any punishment and I’m supposed to go “yea this checks out. Inter is squeaky clean”. Are you nuts??? Bro I have a bridge to sell you. This is the farce of all farces. U want to talk about compensation as if that’s all they did. Oh please. A team that wire taps its own players?! These are not fan theories. It’s not even critical thinking , just basic questions , basic logic , a basic WTF if you will. They walked away with a Scudetto knowing very well they did the exact same thing as the team that got relegated.
I recall city a few years ago was cleared of wrong doing by UEFA for an investigation…yet still had to pay a fine. According to Mou…why do they need to pay if they’re not guilty? Lol same applies. If Inter is innocent why are they paying compensation to people affected? Why Inter and not TIM? TIM after all were the ones who did the wire taps, no? Lol…again please use basic logic.
Of course Inter didn’t set up the actual commission, the word ‘duh’ comes to mind. I was being facetious..duh… But it was DEFINITELY Inter leaning was the point. It’s like having Zanetti and Marotta lead the investigation to our current ownership issues with FIGC. Do you not see the problem there?
What part of evidence from credible sources is it you don’t understand? You haven’t provided any and you’ve made conclusions based on conjecture. I’m not interested in speculation. You don’t even understand the basics of debate and evidence and yet you’re trying to comment on legal matters?!?!? We have established you’re not credible and you’re not credible because I have proven the claim you initially made is totally and utterly false. You don’t have an argument. You’ve had ample opportunities to provide evidence and yet you double down and deal in speculation. You amateur.
Yes Inter are the angels who did nothing wrong in 2006 🤣
Snap!
(see above)
But I am serious that Inter need at least 2 more Scudetti to justify the two stars given that they won a bunch of Scudetti off the back of Calciopoli.
How many should we discount in our heads?
05/06 – certainly, no question in my mind.
06/07 – there’s still that filthy linger….
So to my mind this Scudetto will be their 18th.
But more to the point, who would want to support Inter?
The history books say otherwise. I suggest you get over it and move on, as if Inter are or have been the biggest problem. It’s Juve and Napoli who have screwed us over in the past through underhanded means, not Inter. Besides, you forget who are president was…
You see it’s part of this ‘fan’ thing.
You do realise you watch 11 men chase a ball around a park each week?
I mean if you want to be super-rationale, totally robotic, what’s the point of life about it.
And as a student of history I really hope you don’t get your history from the books. They tend to be biased.
There’s a difference between being a fan and being a sheep and hating Inter just because you think you’re supposed to.
It’s been explained to you above the issues with the process and Inter’s involvements.
It’s certainly sheep-like to just accept the outcome of a dodgy ‘trial’. I’m sure you also accept OJ was innocent.
Bro I’m bewildered. The whole thing was a big disgrace to sporting justice. These things are publicly available
There are two types of people in the world, those who deal in facts and those who push conspiracy theories because they cannot accept reality.
Dude in the pic looks like a character from the Hunger Games 😂😂
That dictator.
That explains the witch hunt
Next Inter will accuse us of Russian collusion.
And there goes any credibility of those accusations. We can bury this thing quite soon.